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I just read this for the second time. Nice work! Like AncientSion below I am a bit skeptical of their ability to enter a competitive market like Germany -- and wonder if they'd be better off sticking to optimizing the home market in Japan and Asia. That said, if it doesn't work out they can try somewhere else, as you say. One simple question: am I right to assume the fixed monthly franchise fees would have some kind of index to inflation?

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So it took me a while to read through this twice and do some research on my own and think about the value proposition. Im using the gym myself for ten years now, so i have some first hand experience on whats going on as well as the Zeitgiest.

Since you focus on growth opportunties in germany, i can comment on that. Germany has actually quite the buzzing gym scene. As you mentioned, considerable chunk of the population is at least paying, if not training. I wasnt able to find updated numbers, but especially younger ppl are attracted to the gym. Numbers from 2021 indicate that 40 - 45 % aged 15-20 hit the gym. I would assume this number is more or less the same still. This is also the the group of ppl mostly attracted to the 24h opening and the cheap price, so its really the most relevant target group i would say. According to google there are about 10k gyms in germany, and there are a lot of franchises operating already.

I did check the german homepage of fast fitness and they are asking 25 to 30 €, which is basically what a lot of the really big german value franchises are asking as well (FitX, Clever Fit etc). They follow the same concept, mostly, i.e. no swimming, no sauna but you can get in a good workout + shower and they also offers daily excercise courses which i assume FFJ is/will as well.

I would say the german gym market in the "value" segment is definitely highly competetive and right now i dont see how FFJ stands out. Doesnt mean they will fail and the 8 % target does seem plausible since people switch their membership regulary to see what the other gyms are offering etc. But i also dont see any new competitior dominating because they really follow the same concept (long opening hours, clean and modern place, cheap price in exchange for being on your own mostly, i.e. no proper license-d trainers needed nor wanted).

The reasons for the high gym-user penetration is germany is...social media. Some years ago, pre covid, a bunch of teens discovered that they could upload their training videos from the gym to youtube and these guys made out like bandits. They formed companies to sell there own apparell and supplements (whey etc) and these guys become millionares within a few months. And that is what started the fitness craze in germany and why its still on today still. Nowdays they call themselves "Athletes" and they get sponsored by the big fitness diet brants (Weider, ESN, MyProtein ++).

Ideally i would suggest that instead of expanding outside of Japan, FFJ should hire or sponsor some actual influencers / athletes (females) in Japan to promote the "healthy" fitness lifestyle and increase market penetration in japan. which seemingly is a huge laggard.

The whole thing is aimed at young people in the first place, so those 40 to 50 year old white collar worker that is tired every everything (understandibly) isnt the target audience anyway.

I realize japanese culture isnt based so much around how you look and its different from western mentality and thats probably a huge part of the lacking market penetration. Then again. the US exports all their bad habbits to Japan in the past well, right ?

To sum it up im really curious why FFJ believes its easier to take customers off their competitiors in germany / outside of japan instead of tagging people in Japan. All those skinny japanese boys or young men would probably be better off hitting the gym. They need to market it better !

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